Vandeventer Estates: First market rate homes built in Vandeventer since 1940s

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Fifty-one single family market rate houses and townhomes are planned for the Vandeventer neighborhood. Located just a few blocks North of Delmar and two blocks west of Grand, phase I of the development will include 43 lots on the 3900-4000 blocks of C.D. Banks and Finney. 

Plans show a modern design with large vertical front facing windows, side entry and variations of three different types of veneer on the front. The homes are approximately 2,000sqft each, with an open floor plan, 3 bedrooms and 2.5 baths. All units will be energy efficient and have either a detached or attached garage. Upgrade packages include flooring, lighting, and options for decks and rooftop patios are available.

Developer/contractor Ken Hutchinson with VIP Construction said “This is a continuation of the North Sarah project. We want to jump start the single family housing market by bringing a new style of housing to the area. The homes are less than a mile from Cortex, SLU, Grand Center, and the NGA. We want to see more growth and movement north. This is about pushing the envelope and uniting the city.”

 

These homes will be the first market rate, new construction, single family residences built in the Vandeventer Neighborhood since Vandeventer Place was demolished in 1947. Another sign that St. Louis is finally beginning to bridge the Delmar Divide. See our story from yesterday: Breaking down the Delmar Divide.

Remax City Wide Group is responsible for marketing the homes which will be priced from $180,000-$250,000 based on home style and upgrades. 1% down conventional loans are available and all homes include a 15 year Tax Abatement.

Ground breaking is scheduled for next Tuesday, September 26th. 

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  • Steven C. Schulte

    I would seriously doubt the ability of this contractor to start this project, much less complete it. A simple Google search yields some disturbing, fairly recent news about this person. Buyer, beware!!

    • thomas h benton

      Yikes. I would be surprised if he can get financing. I hope the project succeeds.

      • jhoff1257

        Well the groundbreaking is next week…so my guess is those details are already in place.

    • jhoff1257

      The bankruptcy fraud from 2015 is certainly a red flag, but he did manage to get the North Sarah redevelopment off the ground and that development has seen plenty of success. Let’s hope for more of that.

    • Jeff Devers

      Maybe he should run for President!?

  • Presbyterian

    Fantastic!

  • Andrew Roberts

    Seems like a screaming deal and the neighborhood should fill up with young forward thinking people.

  • Ben Harvey

    I wonder if they plan to keep any of the existing historical houses

    • Andy Horstmann

      The land is currently vacent where these houses will be going up. We anticipate renovators will then start rehabing the historic old homes which we love.

  • rgbose

    How wide are the lots?

    • 33′

      • kjohnson04

        Is that about standard? Sounds about standard, for a multifamily building. It might be a tad wide for a single family home, though. They need to see how much they cram into that footprint.

        • northstar

          33 is pretty narrow. I mean, it’s *slightly* wide for STL, but STL lots tend to be 25ish ft wide, which greatly limits the amount of sunlight that enters a house on an east-west street like Finney (unless the house has unusually angled windows, lots of setbacks, lightwells, or skylights). There are a lot of beautiful, but cavelike, long, thin houses in STL as a result. Anything between 35 and 45 is dense enough – and it allows enough of a gap between buildings that sunlight can enter the side windows. Unless you prefer to live in darkness, which is cool, I guess, but would seriously depress me. Also, slightly wider lots allow the houses on them to be less deep if you aren’t trying to maximize sunlight, and the back yards to be deeper, which is awesome if you have young kids and want to do housework while they play. For reference, most of the houses built in the ’10s, ’20s, and ’30s tend to be 25 to 28 feet wide, which requires an additional 10-15 ft between buildings for adequate daylighting.

          • rgbose
          • northstar

            Those are atrocious. Why are they so skinny? Being so skinny, why don’t they have any windows on the sides (besides the token windows)? What’s so hard about doing this right like in the picture below??? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a4fcc25b222257a0a1dc09067f70630f788637dd8c7589710bc4668ff4e0b4e.jpg

          • Jason Fossella

            Short answer: Fire code.

            Slightly longer answer: Fire codes require a “fire separation distance” between the building and the street or lot line. It varies depending on which version of the code was adopted locally and/or which version the bank and/or insurance company insists on and/or the height of building and/or what it’s made of and/or how many windows there are…there’s a lot that goes into figuring it out. The closer together you put the houses, the more fireproof the siding and roof have to be, which increases the cost. The reason there are few windows on the sides is to minimize the area that is unprotected from flame, which lets them put the houses a bit closer together.

          • Jason Fossella

            and before anybody starts on “argle bargle, they used to build houses close together and nobody died,” yes, yes they did. there’s about 2600 deaths per year from home fires in the US. In the 1970s there were 5500-6000 deaths per year- in a country with 100 fewer million residents. we are much safer because of rules like this.

          • rgbose

            Tough balance since the farther houses are a apart the more taxes and higher utility bills they have to pay to cover the cost of the infrastructure to serve them. And there’s the additional danger of the extra driving required in more spread-out areas.

          • rgbose

            Here are some new houses on 33′-wide lots that aren’t awkwardly skinny. Note these are at price point double the ones in Vandeventer Estates.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aa3dfc0b85c8dbd131a9ec4178c63bfd191b041a4ccc966ecf9285a0917cb0c9.jpg

          • matt

            Where are these new homes?

          • rgbose

            Those are on the 5700 block of McPherson

          • jhoff1257

            So what exactly is the correlation of those deaths in the 1970s and the amount of space between houses? How do we know the reduction doesn’t have more to do with improved fire protection systems, smoke/fire alarms, sprinklers, improved firefighting techniques and more modern equipment etc?

            Not trying to “argle bargle” (whatever the hell that is) just genuinely curious.