Maryland East: New Homes in the CWE

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Six new single-family market-rate homes are planned for the 4200 block of Maryland in the Central West End. The first phase of the Maryland East development, which is already under construction, consists of four new homes each with three bedrooms, two and a half baths and detached 2-car garages. The developer is Universatile Development and the architect is Barry Nelson. 

The buildings are 20’ wide on 24’ lots. While the houses are fully detached, each pair of garages shares a party wall. The narrow spacing complies with the local historic district and is consistent with the existing homes on the street where most lots are 25-26’, and some structures stand less than 2’ from each other. 

Two homes are under contract in excess of $500,000 and two remain available with a starting price of $425,000. Jeff Winzerling President of Universatile Development said the display unit will be ready by the end of the year. Phase two consists of two additional lots on the same block. When complete the project will substantially restore the block to it’s original density.

 

 

 

 

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  • stldoc

    Nice infill. Good stuff.

  • Nick

    I’m sure I’ll be met with vitriol here, but as a resident of the CWE, I think the barricaded streets are an improvement. To their benefits, I think they do help slow down traffic, which is a good thing, and they improve the walking experience of the neighborhood. For example, on my nightly walk along Boyle, I have one less intersection to cross when I get to Laclede. Same with walking along Sarah at Pine. It’s actually quite nice.

    I also don’t think the detriments are as bad as advertised. First of all, even during rush hour, there isn’t that much traffic going through the CWE, so any overflow onto Lindell, FPP or Kingshighway from block streets isn’t that bad. First, if you live in the neighborhood, you learn which streets are blocked pretty quickly, and you can usually still get through the area via side streets without a problem.
    Second, even during rush hour, there isn’t really that much traffic going through the CWE as a whole, so any overflow onto Lindell, FPP or Kingshighway from block streets is pretty minimal (if anything is clogging traffic, it’s stop lights that are improperly timed to wait to long per cycle).

    • Imran

      Blocked streets give the impression of peace, quiet and exclusivity to residents which is the reason so many exist in the city. However, they have negative impacts to the community/environment at large. It’s a complicated topic difficult to discuss with back and forth here. I will leave you with one observation. After dark, blocked public streets have more opportunity for crime against pedestrians and car breakins. Fewer cars driving through often translates to fewer eyes on the street.

      • Nick

        I understand what you’re saying, but I just don’t think block streets make that much of a difference. For example, in the blocks that make up the Laclede/Pine portion neighborhood (east of Taylor), traffic is pretty light after dark on any of the streets, blocked or not. So there’s not much crime deterrence either way.

        • Imran

          I happen to be on a neighborhood business district board in the Taylor/Maryland area ( x 4 years ) .We review crime data monthly and there seem to be 10 times more car breakins and muggings on dead end blocks. On one of the coveted quiet streets, someone even managed to steal the tires off a parked car !!
          I live on the only open street in the district where there are essentially zero incidents (prob jinxing myself here). There is light traffic late into the night and it makes a difference.
          Just sharing another point of view.

          • Nick

            I would love to see data or a report that corroborates your claim.

          • Imran

            Have been thinking about putting one together. The data trend is clearly there, alteast in our district. It may be difficult to attribute cause/effect because so many other factors affect safety on a street. It makes intuitive sense though.

  • HawkSTL

    Good designs, high values, and excellent for the CWE!

  • Daniel Schmidt

    How does it feel finding something negative with every single thing that happens in life? Gotta be tiring.

    • Jakeb

      you read my mind. Forever making the perfect the enemy of the good has got to be exhausting.

      • Imran

        Ouch. Way to bully critical thinking guys. I had better straighten up or else.

        • Daniel Schmidt

          Not bullying, asking a question. I don’t see the “critical thinking” in your statement though.

          • Adam

            Your question was pretty hyperbolic and came off as insincere. I’d say questioning how curb cuts, closed streets, etc. effect quality of life in St. Louis should be standard and not an afterthought or ridiculed as negativity. Huge swaths of the city are pedestrian and traffic nightmares due to lack of planning. or, rather, planning only for cars.

          • Daniel Schmidt

            My question wasn’t about curb cuts, that was a statement. I agree that planning is virtually non-existent in St. Louis and a problem that affects us all. I think the real issue isn’t the closed street, but the reason(s) for it in the first place. Imran thinks it is because of the “awful community around them”, which may contribute to the closing. The shopping center directly across from the terminus may play a large part as well.

            Can you agree that infill development in the City is a good thing, especially when it complies with the local historic district and is consistent with the existing homes on the street? Now if there is no tax abatement (and I agree that it is unlikely) is it not a positive development?

          • Adam

            Well, I wasn’t referring to your statement. I was referring to your question: “How does it feel finding something negative with every single thing that happens in life?”

            I don’t think all development is necessarily good, no. I think this development is fine. Imran wasn’t even commenting on this development, per se. He was commenting on nearby infrastructure. It may irritate you that he chooses to focus on that while you’re celebrating Development but that doesn’t make his criticisms invalid or irrelevant.

            Closed streets force more traffic onto fewer roads, which then leads engineers to expand capacity/speeds on those roads, which makes them less safe. Currently, a handful of people living on one block can compel their alderman to close off their public street to traffic, which has repercussions beyond their block. Surely you can agree that’s not the best way to plan city streets.

            And I’m actually not so fond of our historic standards. It kills architectural diversity and makes the city look like a museum of cheap replicas. Diversity is interesting. I wish people around here would get out more and see modern and historic buildings complementing each other in other cities. That said, not every contemporary building is attractive either.

          • Daniel Schmidt

            I do agree with your statements regarding streets – and petitioning to close streets by a handful of people should not result in the further destruction of the grid. I also agree with your statement regarding “cheap replicas”. I think the standard should be quality materials that complement the surrounding structures/buildings.

            I guess my point was we can find negative things to pick at in each development, and often times we should. This one seems fairly positive on all fronts. Celebration over. Thanks.

          • Adam

            “Celebration over. Thanks.”

            Wish you could see how far back my eyes are rolling. 🙂

          • STLEnginerd

            Also the street has been closed for a decade plus and has nothing to do with this development.

            Its not like Dan said
            “Hey no curb cuts, and thank god the street is still closed so we can continue our legacy of a broken street grid for the sake of protecting our block from the occasional pass-thru by non-residents !!!!”

            In responding to Daniel, rather than starting a new post, Imram sort of invited the response IMHO.

          • jhoff1257

            Well said. I was driving on a street through the Grove this past weekend and watched the car in front of me with Minnesota plates attempt to make a right turn on three successive streets only to watch him throw his hands in the air or pound his steering wheel when he found out each one had those hideous Slay balls. I love St. Louis, but sometimes I just don’t get it.

        • Jakeb

          I’m confused. I’m trying to understand how a comment on the barricading of public streets is a critical response to this project. Does this project include the barricading of any public street?

  • Framer

    Good stuff!

  • John

    The development looks decent. Nice to see the property investment. I hope there was no TIF or tax abatement to get this financed.

    I would like to see the site plan include trees in the back yards, since rear trees are depicted in the rendering.

    Are the garages all-brick exterior as well? If not, the garages should be brick, especially since they are attached in sets of two.

    • Luftmentsch

      Who would do this without some kind of tax abatement? My guess is: no one.

      • Yung_Chilli_Bean

        Dang u burned him LUF! u so smahrt

  • Imran

    Hmm. Isn’t this the block where MSD is planning to tear down a house to put in a sewer pump?

    • Daniel Schmidt

      Hey but no curb cuts!

  • Presbyterian

    So glad to see this happening!

    • Jakeb

      Agreed. This kind of residential infill is very exciting. And the prices they are commanding seems crazy. Crazy good.

      A couple houses have just sold in the 4500 and 4600 blocks of Maryland for very good prices. Prices the owners would not have gotten even a year ago.